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Scot McKnight Interview

Following on from my interview with Michael Bird, I'm pleased to present this interview with Scot McKnight. Scot lectures in NT at North Park University in Chicago, but is probably best known in the blogosphere for his excellent blog Jesus Creed. Scot has written a wide range of material for both the serious theology student and for the Christian seeking to strengthen and deepen their walk with Jesus. In addition to The Jesus Creed, Embracing Grace, and numerous other titles, Scot has also recently published a book on the atonement called Jesus and His Death.


1. With books like The Jesus Creed and Embracing Grace you've shown how the knowledge gained in an academic career can be used to produce material that is accessible and spiritually nourishing for a wider audience. Why do you think that so much of what goes on in the academy often fails to have an impact on the life of the church?


Three reasons:
First, many in the Academy don’t care enough about the Church and so don’t try to help by writing for the Church.
Second, many in the Academy are concerned about things – historical problems, etc – that don’t matter to the Church.
Third, many in the Academy think that if they teach pastors their results will pass on into the congregation. This is not true; pastors as a general rule don’t have time to keep up with what is going on in the Academy in order to pass these things on to the congregation.

Thus, more in the Academy need to begin writing for the Church – which means for lay people. Where people can understand it and be shaped by what they read.

2. Who would you say are the people who have influenced you most in your Christian life?

My family – especially Kris and my parents -- and my college and seminary teachers. But, then I can’t exclude writers like Bonhoeffer, Ronald Sider, CS Lewis, Augustine, Thomas a Kempis ….

3. You have quite a following amongst believers in the emerging churches, though a lot of Christians seem very hostile to what they perceive to be an errant and dangerous movement. Do you see a way ahead where those in the emerging culture are integrated more closely with more established churches?

The emerging movement is so varied that I would say your suggestion is “one way” to move forward. I think we will see an increasing number who are less affiliated with a local church and more affiliated with like-minded Christians who have a missional direction in a local community. Church as we know will change.

4. What would you say is the most important lesson that any biblical scholar or theologian could learn?

That prayer, worship, Bible reading and personal communion with God and the Church need to be at the core of all Christian scholarship. Pray daily. And don’t worry what scholars think about you; worry about what God and your local community thinks.

5. If you were allowed to preach on just one story from the Bible, which one would it be, and why?

Mary’s encounter with Simeon in the Temple.

6. The resurrection of the dead has taken place, and the new heavens and the new earth have been established. Who is the first person you'd like to play a round of golf with?

CS Lewis (and I’d hope he’d bring Warnie along)


Many thanks to Scot for agreeing to be interviewed, be sure to add Jesus Creed to your blogroll if you haven't already!

Justification again

Oh dear. It's now getting on for ten years since N T Wright wrote What St Paul Really Said, but you're still never more than a few mouse clicks away from a vigorous and often overheated debate over what it was exactly that Wright really said, and how that may or not conflict with what the Reformers really said. To be honest the whole discussion is incredibly boring since it becomes so partisan and uncharitable that very little is actually said that is of any value.

 Expect the debate to hot up even more though, as John Piper has announced that he is just finishing work on writing a critique of Wright's work on Paul:

"My motivation in writing it is that I think his understanding of Paul is wrong and his view of justification is harmful to the church and to the human soul. Few things are more precious than the truth of justification by faith alone because of Christ alone. As a shepherd of a flock of God’s blood-bought church, I feel responsible to lead the sheep to life-giving pastures. That is not what the sheep find in Wright’s view of Paul on justification. He is an eloquent and influential writer and is, I believe, misleading many people on the doctrine of justification."

Now I admit my theological preferences place me somewhat closer to Wright than to Piper, but regardless I find it difficult to comprehend that anyone could say that Wright's work is "harmful to the church and the human soul." Wright's work may be many things, but destructive to the church it ain't.

As I understand it, the main Reformed issue with NTW is that he argues that future judgement will be based on works (in which case, he is in complete agreement with Paul), that we are declared righteous in union with Christ rather than having God's own righteousness forensically imputed to us (in which case, what's the big deal?) and that faith is an evidence of salvation, rather than the means to accquiring it, as salvation is completely and solely a gracious act of God and the Spirit (can I get an 'Amen'?). There are also some who argue that since Wright's views on justification and sanctification are close to that of the Roman Catholic church, we ought to dismiss them outright (which is an argument so stupid that it really requires no refutation).

I've thought a lot about justification by faith recently. Growing up evangelical it's just a given that justification by faith and all its corollaries are the central focus of the Gospel and the Christian faith, but I'm more and more certain that while they are important doctrines, they are not the central substance of the Gospel, and are really incidental to the central messages of both Paul and Jesus. I'm just ruminating out loud really, but I hope to write a little more on this in the neat future.

Snapshots of the Early Church

"Christians are not distinguished from the rest of mankind either in locality or in speech or in customs. For they dwell not somewhere in cities of their own, neither do they use some different language, nor practice an extraordinary kind of life. Nor again do they possess any invention discovered by any intelligence or study of ingenious men, nor are they masters of any human dogma as some are. But while they dwell in cities of Greeks and barbarians as the lot of each is cast, and follow the native customs in dress and food and the other arrangements of life, yet the constitution of their own citizenship, which they set forth, is marvelous, and confessedly contradicts expectation.

They dwell in their own countries, but only as sojourners; they bear their share in all things as citizens, and they endure all hardships as strangers. Every foreign country is a fatherland to them, and every fatherland is foreign. They marry like all other men and they beget children; but they do not cast away their offspring. They have their meals in common, but not their wives. They find themselves in the flesh, and yet they live not after the flesh. Their existence is on earth, but their citizenship is in heaven.  They obey the established laws, and they surpass the laws in their own lives. They love all men, and they are persecuted by all. They are ignored, and yet they are condemned. They are put to death, and yet they are endued with life. They are in beggary, and yet they make many rich. They are in want of all things, and yet they abound in all things. They are dishonored, and yet they are glorified in their dishonor. They are evil spoken of, and yet they are vindicated. They are reviled, and they bless; they are insulted, and they respect Doing good they are punished as evil-doers; being punished they rejoice, as if they were thereby quickened by life. War is waged against them as aliens by the Jews, and persecution is carried on against them by the Greeks, and yet those that hate them cannot tell the reason of their hostility."

Epistle to Diognetus 5:1 - 5:17

Michael Bird Interview

Following on from interviews with Jim West and Ben Myers, I'm pleased to announce that Michael Bird of Euangelion has agreed to be my next victim interviewee. Mike lectures in New Testament at Highland Theological College in Scotland and much of his work is available to read on the web. Two articles I highly recommend are this one on Incorporated Righteousness and also this one on the Post-New Perspective Perspective. Without any further ado, here's Mike:

 1. You've been studying for quite a while now. How do you think the
academic
study of scripture and theology has shaped your own faith?

Academic study gives my faith a window into a world that I would not
otherwise have known. Jesus who emobodied in his own person the story of
Israel; The counter-imperial connotations of Paul's gospel; John the
Seer's attempt to reassure his audience of God's sovereignty in the face
of politicized evil; and the author of Hebrews who urges his readers to
persevere under great strain and struggle.

2. Who would you say are the key figures who have influenced and
inspired
your own academic pursuits?

Authors that really inspired me to want to become a bibical scholar were
guys like Tom Wright, D.A. Carson, Richard Bauckham, F.F. Bruce, E.P.
Sanders, Craig Evans, Stan Porter, Ben Witherington, Mark Seifrid and
Scot McKnight. I continue to enjoy their works and feel that their books
are worth reading more than once.

3. What do you think are the qualities needed to be a good biblical
scholar?

Discipline, humility, energy, a passion for teaching, a thirst for
knowledge, persistance, and a love for Jesus.

4. What do you see as some of the key issues and debates that biblical
scholarship will face in the next 5-10 years?

I think studies in reception-history or wirkungsgeschicte will become
more prevalent. The Third Quest for the Historical Jesus will either
gain momentum or fizz out. I think we will see the emergence of a
post-New Perspective Perspective on Paul. Rhetorical and
socio-rhetorical studies will likewise abound. I wonder if the notion of
Gospel communities (e.g. "Matthean community") may die a slow and
painful death as Bauckham's "Gospel for All Christians" begins to
permeate the eschelons of Gospel scholarship.

5. Finally, you're going to be abandoned on a desert island with one
character from the OT, one from the NT, and one figure from Church
history.
Who would you choose, and why?

Moses - So I can ask, "so what did you see on the mountain exactly?"

Paul - So I can ask, "what's with this woman in the image of man thing?"

Martin Luther - So I can ask, "so what did you think of E.P. Sanders?"
Thanks to Mike for taking the time to do the interview, more to come later in the week!